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Obama wins
I want to congratulate Obama for his win. He won with a great campaign.
He will be the first black President, not Bill Clinton. Obama has won and we all need to live with it, the people have spoken.
And we need to look at why the conservatives lost. I think we need better leadership and get back to basics. I did not really like Mccain as the candidate. But I did get behind him. He was too tame in my mind, being a Senator, he wanted to get along too much. And he also was trying to get the center too much also. And his campaign was atrocious. It reminded me of Dole’s campaign.
But tonight’s night or morning is to go to Obama. He is our President and we should respect his position. Yes I do not like it, but as I said the people have spoken. And he won. We can bitch and moan about fraud, but both sides do that. So we should respect the people’s choice and welcome Obama as the next President of the United States of America.
Now the job is to try and stop him from going too far to the left. But to do it with the war of ideas, not take down the man. I know I will probably stray from this from time to time, he was friends with a known terrorist and has many Marxists friends. But that is not trying to take down the man, but going after his judgment.
I know that he will do what he thinks what is best for the United States and I will praise him when he does good, but will be on him when he does wrong.
Oh well that is just my 2 cents, and do not hold me to anything, I am in a buzzed state (scotch does that to you) But I want to say we do have differences in how I think the government should be run, but Barak Obama is the President Elect and we have to give him credit. Just a few yeas ago, who would think anyone like Obama could be elected.
Now is the time ti be humble and try adn figure out how to win the next race.
Obama wins
I want to congratulate Obama for his win. He won with a great campaign.
He will be the first black President, not Bill Clinton. Obama has won and we all need to live with it, the people have spoken.
And we need to look at why the conservatives lost. I think we need better leadership and get back to basics. I did not really like Mccain as the candidate. But I did get behind him. He was too tame in my mind, being a Senator, he wanted to get along too much. And he also was trying to get the center too much also. And his campaign was atrocious. It reminded me of Dole’s campaign.
But tonight’s night or morning is to go to Obama. He is our President and we should respect his position. Yes I do not like it, but as I said the people have spoken. And he won. We can bitch and moan about fraud, but both sides do that. So we should respect the people’s choice and welcome Obama as the next President of the United States of America.
Now the job is to try and stop him from going too far to the left. But to do it with the war of ideas, not take down the man. I know I will probably stray from this from time to time, he was friends with a known terrorist and has many Marxists friends. But that is not trying to take down the man, but going after his judgment.
I know that he will do what he thinks what is best for the United States and I will praise him when he does good, but will be on him when he does wrong.
Oh well that is just my 2 cents, and do not hold me to anything, I am in a buzzed state (scotch does that to you) But I want to say we do have differences in how I think the government should be run, but Barak Obama is the President Elect and we have to give him credit. Just a few yeas ago, who would think anyone like Obama could be elected.
Now is the time ti be humble and try adn figure out how to win the next race.
Election Map
I will have this up top for the rest of the night to update the elections. And I will be live blogging below.
I just got home from work and it looks like Obama has won Vermont and McCain has won Kentucky
according to Fox News.
I will be just adding on going down from here. So the farther you go down the later the update will be. Come back often. I will be trying to get the results from the local elections here also, and the state level also.
6:32 West Virginia for McCain
6:37 Delaware to Obama big shock
6:50 South Carolina to Mccain
6:59 another chocker Illinois to Obama
6:58 Oklahoma to McCain
7:00 Maine, Mass, Conn, PA, Maryland to Obama
7:05 Tennessee to McCain
Sorry for the delay but the bar did not have a good connection and I came back home.
9:28 Obama wins in OH, PA, IA, WI, NM, MN, MI, NY, RI, MA, NH, MD, CT, NJ, DE, VT, DC, ME, IL;
& Mccain TX, UT, LA, GA, SC, AR, AL, OK, TN, WV, KY, ND, KS, WY.
9:42 Obama wins Virginia
10:05 Welcome the next president Barack Obama
Election Map
I will have this up top for the rest of the night to update the elections. And I will be live blogging below.
I just got home from work and it looks like Obama has won Vermont and McCain has won Kentucky
according to Fox News.
I will be just adding on going down from here. So the farther you go down the later the update will be. Come back often. I will be trying to get the results from the local elections here also, and the state level also.
6:32 West Virginia for McCain
6:37 Delaware to Obama big shock
6:50 South Carolina to Mccain
6:59 another chocker Illinois to Obama
6:58 Oklahoma to McCain
7:00 Maine, Mass, Conn, PA, Maryland to Obama
7:05 Tennessee to McCain
Sorry for the delay but the bar did not have a good connection and I came back home.
9:28 Obama wins in OH, PA, IA, WI, NM, MN, MI, NY, RI, MA, NH, MD, CT, NJ, DE, VT, DC, ME, IL;
& Mccain TX, UT, LA, GA, SC, AR, AL, OK, TN, WV, KY, ND, KS, WY.
9:42 Obama wins Virginia
10:05 Welcome the next president Barack Obama
At least now we will not have to see or listen to the Campaign ads
Now that it is election day, the campaign ads and emails,letters andphonecalls asking for moneywill go away. Thishasbeen the most bizare election that I can reacall. On both sides youhavecnadidates that half the party does not really like. McCain hasstepped on the conservatives toes for years, and in some ways that shouldbe commmended. But it does not help in a General Election. But he came back and picked Sarah Palin frthe VP slotwhich brought manyCnservatives back, incuding me. I was going to vote for McCain anyway over Obama,but at least now it was not as bad as before. (I was one of the people thatsaid they would never vote for McCain after "The gang of 14" and also McCain-Feingold.) But after seeing Obama was the nominee for the Demiocrats,there was no wayI wanted Obama in the White House.
Now on thedemocratside,we all thought that Hillary was going to be the nominee. And all the conservatives really do not like Hillary. But I would haveratherseen herasthenomineethan Obama and she probably would have easilydefeated any Republican. But Obama cameout on top and alienated all of Hillary;s supporters. And thus the PUMAs were formed and voting for McCain. Will that be enough for McCain????? We will have to see.
I for one am so happy that this marathon campaign is over. It seems like it has lasted for10 years or so. But people arealready talking about the next Presidnetial Campaign is going to start tomorrow. I sure as hell hope not. We need to sit back and heal for a moment. the Campaigns have beso vitriol on both sides over last decade or so. At least since Clinton’s impeachement.
We need to get past the blind partisanship on both sides and do what is best for the country. But we can still do this and be partisan. As Ronald reagan said, "It is better to get 80% than 0%". this goes to both sides. There is no 100% pure candidate that will cure all our ills and do all our biddings.
The right has their "purists", waitingfor the ghost of reagan to come back and take over the party. I got newsfor them,it is not going to happen. We are in a different time and political landscape. That is not to say we shouldnot look to reagan for examplesof what to do, his philosphyis what broughtConservatism backinothemainstream, along with Goldwater, William F Buckley and other Conservative thinkers.
And its eems to me that the Left wants to bring European style socialism to this country. Theydo haveto remember that the country is pretty much to the center, or center right. I do not like this style of government, it only stagnates the economy and will not bring people up,but will make everyone mediocre. I could be wrong and the Left has figured a way to make Socislism work, but as history has shown, it fails everytime.
With all that said and done, I just hope that after the count and recounts are over,we can all accept the outcome and work together. I really do not see that happening though. Egos, and partisanship will get in the way, and we will have the side that looses say that it is not legitimate whoever wins.
This is not to say if Obama gets elected we should notsritisize him. Or try and slow his jump to the left down, as with the left should not just die and go away if McCain wins. We need both sides of the aisle to keep each other in check. "Power corupts, but absolute power corrupts absolutely".
Hopefully this all makes sense to everyone. It is not a call to get rid of all partisanship, but to be civil and respect the other side. I know that I am not always the best at doing this, I do poke fun at the Left, but I do most of it in jest. As Rush does, "Be absurd or absurdity’s sake". Sarasm and ability to laugh at one;s self and others is a must. Without it,we would be dry and boring.AndI do not spread the hate that many on both sides spews out, mostly from the daily Kos and other Left wing sites, but there are some on the right also. I do not wish harm orill will to anyone on the Left.
We needto fight in the arena of ideas, not vitriol and bile towards each other.
Enough with the long rambling.
Tonight I will belive blogging the election results from The Jug in downtown Belleville along with other Republicans. Atleastif I can getwi-fi in the place. I should there are a couple free wi- fi hotspots in the area.
At least now we will not have to see or listen to the Campaign ads
Now that it is election day, the campaign ads and emails,letters andphonecalls asking for moneywill go away. Thishasbeen the most bizare election that I can reacall. On both sides youhavecnadidates that half the party does not really like. McCain hasstepped on the conservatives toes for years, and in some ways that shouldbe commmended. But it does not help in a General Election. But he came back and picked Sarah Palin frthe VP slotwhich brought manyCnservatives back, incuding me. I was going to vote for McCain anyway over Obama,but at least now it was not as bad as before. (I was one of the people thatsaid they would never vote for McCain after "The gang of 14" and also McCain-Feingold.) But after seeing Obama was the nominee for the Demiocrats,there was no wayI wanted Obama in the White House.
Now on thedemocratside,we all thought that Hillary was going to be the nominee. And all the conservatives really do not like Hillary. But I would haveratherseen herasthenomineethan Obama and she probably would have easilydefeated any Republican. But Obama cameout on top and alienated all of Hillary;s supporters. And thus the PUMAs were formed and voting for McCain. Will that be enough for McCain????? We will have to see.
I for one am so happy that this marathon campaign is over. It seems like it has lasted for10 years or so. But people arealready talking about the next Presidnetial Campaign is going to start tomorrow. I sure as hell hope not. We need to sit back and heal for a moment. the Campaigns have beso vitriol on both sides over last decade or so. At least since Clinton’s impeachement.
We need to get past the blind partisanship on both sides and do what is best for the country. But we can still do this and be partisan. As Ronald reagan said, "It is better to get 80% than 0%". this goes to both sides. There is no 100% pure candidate that will cure all our ills and do all our biddings.
The right has their "purists", waitingfor the ghost of reagan to come back and take over the party. I got newsfor them,it is not going to happen. We are in a different time and political landscape. That is not to say we shouldnot look to reagan for examplesof what to do, his philosphyis what broughtConservatism backinothemainstream, along with Goldwater, William F Buckley and other Conservative thinkers.
And its eems to me that the Left wants to bring European style socialism to this country. Theydo haveto remember that the country is pretty much to the center, or center right. I do not like this style of government, it only stagnates the economy and will not bring people up,but will make everyone mediocre. I could be wrong and the Left has figured a way to make Socislism work, but as history has shown, it fails everytime.
With all that said and done, I just hope that after the count and recounts are over,we can all accept the outcome and work together. I really do not see that happening though. Egos, and partisanship will get in the way, and we will have the side that looses say that it is not legitimate whoever wins.
This is not to say if Obama gets elected we should notsritisize him. Or try and slow his jump to the left down, as with the left should not just die and go away if McCain wins. We need both sides of the aisle to keep each other in check. "Power corupts, but absolute power corrupts absolutely".
Hopefully this all makes sense to everyone. It is not a call to get rid of all partisanship, but to be civil and respect the other side. I know that I am not always the best at doing this, I do poke fun at the Left, but I do most of it in jest. As Rush does, "Be absurd or absurdity’s sake". Sarasm and ability to laugh at one;s self and others is a must. Without it,we would be dry and boring.AndI do not spread the hate that many on both sides spews out, mostly from the daily Kos and other Left wing sites, but there are some on the right also. I do not wish harm orill will to anyone on the Left.
We needto fight in the arena of ideas, not vitriol and bile towards each other.
Enough with the long rambling.
Tonight I will belive blogging the election results from The Jug in downtown Belleville along with other Republicans. Atleastif I can getwi-fi in the place. I should there are a couple free wi- fi hotspots in the area.
Over? NO! Get Out There and Vote!!
H/T Jonah Goldberg of The Corner at NRO.
Git’er done.
Julia
Go! Out the Door! Vote! Now!
From a Democrat friend in Florida. Go – cancel her vote.
Julia
Mre on Voter Suppression
Here are some more things tolook out for today. Look out for peope trying to trick you out of voting today. The election is always on the first Tues on Nov and will never change.
From a Republican that was convicted of Voter Suppression
1. A notice that says, "Only one political party votes on Tuesday. The other party votes on Wednesday."
2. A notice that says, "Due to the rain, the election is postponed until next week."
3. An official-looking guy stands outside the polling place saying, "You have to pay overdue parking tickets or you can’t vote."
4. Election officials tell college students they can’t vote.
5. You hear a rumor: "If your house was foreclosed on, you can’t vote."
Catholics Investigating What Happened to ACORN Donations
The Washington Times reports this morning that the Catholic Campaign for Human Development (CCHD), the "peace and justice" national committee of the US Conference of Catholic Bishops is investigating how the millions of dollars it has contributed to ACORN over the past few years was used. It looks like the CCHD has a new director who is questioning the organizations contributions since an embezzlement was made public in June at the organization and the bad press erupted over fraudulent voter registrations during the current election season.
Tuesday, November 4, 2008
Catholics probe aid directed to ACORN
The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops has hired forensic accounting specialists to investigate more than $1 million in church funding to voter-registration group ACORN, fearing the money may have been spent in partisan or fraudulent ways that could jeopardize the church’s tax-exempt status.
The investigation is "thorough, serious and ongoing," according to a July 11 letter to more than 200 bishops from New Orleans Bishop Robert Morin, chairman of the committee that oversees the Catholic Campaign for Human Development.
The CCHD sent $1,037,000 to the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) in 2007, including a $40,000 grant to an ACORN affiliate in Las Vegas that was raided last month by the Nevada attorney general’s office in a voter-fraud probe.
The Catholic aid agency has given more than $7.3 million to ACORN over the past decade for about 320 projects, according to the Catholic News Service.
In June, the Catholic Church froze a $1.2 million grant for 38 ACORN chapters after the community-organizing group was accused of voter fraud in 15 states.
State elections officials and the FBI are questioning ACORN workers who submitted voter registration forms signed by Mickey Mouse and members of the Dallas Cowboys football team in their efforts to register voters in low-income neighborhoods, many of whom tend to favor Democratic presidential nominee Sen. Barack Obama.
Mr. Obama once worked with ACORN as a community organizer and lawyer in Chicago.
"While there is value in registering low-income voters, I am concerned that the whole ban on partisanship has been violated," Ralph McCloud, the new executive director for the CCHD, said Monday.
Mr. McCloud said he could not reassure Catholics that the funds donated before 2008 were not used in voter fraud.
"There is no way we can tell," he said. "All our applications go through a rigorous screening, and we ask each organization to commit to being nonpartisan. The overwhelming reality is most of the groups we fund do tremendous work."
The CCHD draws $9,439,000 a year in "second collections" from Catholic churches, the next one slated for Nov. 23. CCHD funds go to groups that fight poverty, interfaith associations, peace and justice groups, immigrant aid groups, environmental coalitions, cooperatives, housing coalitions and labor rights groups.
Read the whole thing at http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/nov/04/catholics-probe-aid-directed-to-acorn/print/
Check out what wikipedia has on the founder of ACORN.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wade_Rathke
Rathke is the publisher and editor of Social Policy magazine which covers the community organizing waterfront and is currently discussing regime change in the US. Their writers are glorying in helping put Obama in the Senate and they are sure – the White House.
Here’s some of an article by an old friend of the ACORN founder, reminiscing about their early days as community organizers and reporting that Rathke is stepping down as head of ACORN.
NOTES FROM THE LEFT COAST – Drummon Pike’s Blog
Wade Rathke has done something some would never have predicted. Resigned as ACORN’s Chief Organizer. Who ever would have imagined?
I met Wade in 1972, as best I can recall. Marge Tabankin and I were running the Youth Project (she was my boss) and had developed a bit of a competition to find the most impressive new organizers “out there.” The YP, begun in the Center for Community Change’s basement, was an operation to leverage foundation $$ into community organizing that involved young people – an attempt to bring the national movements of the day down into the everyday lives of disenfranchised communities. I came up with Mike Miller from Organize, Inc. in SF – a skilled, talented follower of Saul Alinsky’s Industrial Areas Foundation approach: parish based, working class organizing. Alinsky had defined the field in many ways and his Rules for Radicals was found on the shelves of an entire college generation at the time. Margie’s choice was this kid named Wade Rathke.
Rathke was this ornery, young red head in Little Rock, Arkansas that was a couple of years into what would become ACORN as we know it today. He’d dropped out of Williams College to work with the anti-draft movement, but ended up working with George Wiley on the National Welfare Rights Organization. He built an edgy, confrontational group in Springfield, MA and learned on the job how to push for a better break for welfare mothers. His yearning to return to the south led him to convince Wiley to back his hair-brained scheme to build a new kind of organization that expanded the range – low AND moderate income folks, but stretched organizationally beyond one city into a statewide, and ultimately national, approach where there were more levers of power.
So, when I showed up in Little Rock on that hot, humid day in 1972, I found something I hadn’t expected. New thinking, new ambition, new methods. Later, on a whim, I invited Wade up to train some organizers in Montana at the Northern Plains Resource Council. What I saw then truly convinced me that this was a special person – able to find common ground between welfare moms in Springfield, aggrieved neighbors displaced by a freeway being built through their Little Rock neighborhood, and land-rich ranchers in eastern Montana fighting coal strip-mining. What they all faced was an imbalance of power, and they were swimming upstream. He imparted wisdom, practical advice on strategy and tactics, and an invitation to think of themselves in a larger context.
[snip]
I am convinced that the light of history will shine on Rathke quite brilliantly. In his 38 years at the helm of ACORN, he achieved what few have ever done working with poor people. He showed them that, through their own devices, and when collected in significant numbers and willing, on occasion, to be “impolite,” they can win real, tangible victories. If you have ever attended a national convention of ACORN, you will know what I mean. And if you ever need testimony, just talk to one of the leaders of ACORN like Maude Hurd and before her, Steve McDonald, or any of the others. 400,000 families are members, and it is hardly surprising to see progressive national candidates for public office come and address the throng. America will never be the same for the ACORN he helped build from scratch.
Source: http://drummondpike.tides.org/index.php/2008/06/25/saultime-to-step-aside/
And here’s some of a very informative piece on Townhall.com by Carl Horowitz about ACORN and the Rathke brothers:
ACORN Cracks Wide Open
The Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN, is a network of nonprofit community groups formed nearly 40 years ago on the premise that banks, corporations and insurance companies, immersed in greed, have kept poor and predominantly minority neighborhoods desperate. Within the past couple months, however, its leaders have been engaged in the more mundane task of spinning a scandal that already has claimed its most visible leader. To longtime ACORN critics, it’s a case of belated just deserts.
At the center of this storm are ACORN co-founder and chief organizer Wade Rathke and his brother, Dale. Wade Rathke is an almost legendary figure in progressive Left circles. Beginning in the Sixties as an SDS activist, he would go on to apply his talents to the National Welfare Rights Organization, whose principle legacy during its years of existence was a large expansion of welfare eligibility and dependency. Out of this experience came ACORN in 1970. Initially based in Little Rock and eventually in New Orleans, ACORN has become a giant oak tree. The group’s early agitprop rhetoric, as expressed in its People’s Platform, made clear its intent for the years ahead:
We are the majority, forged from all minorities. We are the masses of many, not the forces of few. Enough is enough. We will wait no longer for the crumbs at America’s door. We will not be meek, but mighty. We will not starve on past promises, but feast on future dreams.
From the start, ACORN has been unapologetically radical in both worldview and tactics. Taking its inspiration from Saul Alinsky-style neighborhood confrontation politics, the organization, now claiming about 1,200 chapters with some 400,000 households in the U.S. and abroad, prides itself in its ability to mobilize local residents into demanding and getting their fair share – regardless of whether the donations are voluntary. Right now, ACORN hopes to mobilize someone into replacing Wade Rathke.
[snip]
While not defending the behavior of the Rathkes, they [the ACORN group] maintain that in the larger picture, the theft (or unauthorized transfer of funds) doesn’t hold a candle to what businessmen and “right-wingers” routinely steal. Besides, look at the all the good ACORN has done!
Read the whole thing – I was amazed that all of this was flying under the radar for many years. A friend asked me yesterday: why has none of this made the news? It has, but you had to dig for it. http://townhall.com/columnists/CarlHorowitz/2008/08/09/acorn_cracks_wide_open
Julia
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